WEBVTT 00:00:48.000 --> 00:00:51.000 A complete range of services within the areas of temporary climate solutions, document recovery and emergency drawing solutions. 00:00:51.000 --> 00:01:01.000 Thank you. Slide. 00:01:01.000 --> 00:01:02.000 All right then. Now, much like the fictional agent Macgyver. 00:01:02.000 --> 00:01:20.000 When an archivist finds themselves in a tight spot, they have to use whatever resources are at hand, and while he might get out of a scrape with a literal shoe string, a creative archivist can do wonders with a shoestring, budget, I and my 5 one wonderful quote presenters, will each 00:01:20.000 --> 00:01:29.000 be presenting the ways we've begun. The archives in our own institutions slide. Please. 00:01:29.000 --> 00:01:37.000 Oh dear! It looks like there's been a problem. I did review the slides before we started, but oh, I saw that. There we go. Thank you. 00:01:37.000 --> 00:01:44.000 What's the presentation without a little blip? We begin with somewhat at the beginning, both in the career and the stage of the archive. 00:01:44.000 --> 00:01:49.000 The spring Conference actually marks one full year that I've been working in archives. 00:01:49.000 --> 00:01:53.000 I am in my first job right? Out of my master's program. 00:01:53.000 --> 00:02:12.000 And of course, while that program did cover some aspects of archival work, it was a library and information study degree, and so, of course, this job cast me with the organization of an archives program whole clock now I work at Vcom become as a medical school that has only existed for 20 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:16.000 years but in that time it has expanded to 4 campuses. 00:02:16.000 --> 00:02:27.000 Each campus's library has a small staff. Virginia, I want of 3 full-time staff members and the other campuses also have 2 to 3 full-time staff. 00:02:27.000 --> 00:02:28.000 I work at the oldest campus up here in Virginia, but each campus has its own history and things. 00:02:28.000 --> 00:02:42.000 They would like to have preserved unique to their region. Therefore, the framework I'm building needs to be not only reproducible but highly adaptable, and the more low tech and low budget the better. 00:02:42.000 --> 00:02:45.000 Next slide, please. 00:02:45.000 --> 00:02:53.000 In those 20 years of Vcom's existence our library has slowly collected items that could constitute parts of an archive, but without any of the required structure. 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:58.000 Honestly. The best way to describe its state at the beginning. 00:02:58.000 --> 00:03:01.000 Last year would be nebulous and much like the nebula pictured here. 00:03:01.000 --> 00:03:09.000 Our library had enough material for its to become something, but without shape and order. 00:03:09.000 --> 00:03:12.000 Those materials aren't an idiot archive. 00:03:12.000 --> 00:03:17.000 And most importantly, they cannot be used to create value for our institution. 00:03:17.000 --> 00:03:25.000 So we have a lovely visually here. Next slide, please. 00:03:25.000 --> 00:03:31.000 Alright with the next few slides. I've just taken photos to demonstrate the different forms and materials have been in. 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:39.000 These are all uncatalogued, and in the sort of perpetual limbo that low priority issues tend to find themselves in a busy library. 00:03:39.000 --> 00:03:42.000 Interestingly enough, each different physical grouping of where they were corresponded with, how things would end up being divided at a collection level. 00:03:42.000 --> 00:04:08.000 It seems like this is fairly obvious, but for items that organically accumulated over 2 decades in a medical reference library, with no thoughts for further archival or special collections, it certainly is interesting how they were still almost instinctively kept separate here on the left are 2 bottom 00:04:08.000 --> 00:04:10.000 shells used to be a resource for container. 00:04:10.000 --> 00:04:29.000 Appalachian Rural Health Information. It stopped being part of the general collection almost 15 years ago, but those shells were never cleared, and now here in the twenty-twenty, they have actually sort of aged into a very valuable little snapshot of our institutions early days in 00:04:29.000 --> 00:04:36.000 the early 2 thousands, with all of the relevant 2 thousands healthcare reforms that were going on. 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:53.000 So just by sitting there they page like a fine wine, and on the right, in contrast, this is the most well contained of the groups here in terms of physical space, form took the place of function when it came to organization. 00:04:53.000 --> 00:05:02.000 And honestly, it has not done a bad job of it, purely because this one donation happen to entirely fill a cabinet. 00:05:02.000 --> 00:05:07.000 This is the only group of antique volumes that I know. 00:05:07.000 --> 00:05:11.000 The extent of it being one donation from one person. 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:15.000 So just by virtue of it being held within one cabinet. 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:21.000 This is the one that I actually know, the complete provenance of next slide. 00:05:21.000 --> 00:05:23.000 Please. Now in contract to those 2 fairly well defined ones. 00:05:23.000 --> 00:05:35.000 These are examples of the wide variety of vintage and antique medical texts that have taken up residence in our work corner, as you can tell just from those spines. 00:05:35.000 --> 00:05:53.000 There's a huge range here from some 19 nineties radiology books to a wonderful complete set of 1920, Oxford medical volumes barring some unforceding, super meaningful provenance that jumps out in the next stage of organization this is probably going to be managed more as a 00:05:53.000 --> 00:06:01.000 special library collection, but I can't make those decisions without that history that's going on to the next portion. 00:06:01.000 --> 00:06:12.000 It's been actually the one of the biggest challenges has been balancing my librarian brain with the archival principles and practices I have been familiarizing myself with in the last year. 00:06:12.000 --> 00:06:15.000 Next slide, please. 00:06:15.000 --> 00:06:24.000 When I was on boarding, I was introduced to our officially archive portion that we had been actively treating us, such as you can see, it's made up of archival quality boxes with folders very neatly. 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:28.000 Labeled, and I initially assumed, oh, this portion is. This is done! 00:06:28.000 --> 00:06:33.000 I don't need to do any work on this, it said. 00:06:33.000 --> 00:06:45.000 It has proven to be the cautionary tale of what can happen when we're overwhelmed with not having enough funding, not having enough resources, and we don't set up formal procedures. 00:06:45.000 --> 00:06:49.000 Policies work flows that part. Maybe the driest and most overwhelming part of the work, but it is the most important. It has to exist. 00:06:49.000 --> 00:06:55.000 Even if it's just a a binder. 00:06:55.000 --> 00:07:06.000 These were begun by a predecessor who had argival training, but things like formal planning and record keeping weren't established by the time she moved on. 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:11.000 The next person came in, had one piece of paper explaining the file, naming. 00:07:11.000 --> 00:07:29.000 They did their best repeat for 15 years, and, as you can see in these photos, most noticeably on the right, turned out multiple items need to be assessed for rehousing as soon as possible. 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:31.000 That, or folded up bit right there. That is our original blueprint. 00:07:31.000 --> 00:07:40.000 So this actually the neatest part, actually turned out to be the part that needed the most work and it's very interesting. 00:07:40.000 --> 00:07:46.000 Well, this may have interest. This has started as an organic collection. 00:07:46.000 --> 00:08:08.000 These boxes are currently being managed as somewhere between an artificial collection and simply active record keeping for the institution, so that lack of continuity actually destroyed what originally was a like a pretty good organic collection next slide please and here we have a very underwhelming example of how 00:08:08.000 --> 00:08:13.000 I decided to deal all of this with all of this with my shoestring budget. 00:08:13.000 --> 00:08:14.000 We had no additional funding. Everything else had to come out of our already minimal library funding. 00:08:14.000 --> 00:08:23.000 This is simply an itemized list of each item from a Rule Health corner of our general collection. 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:28.000 I showed you all earlier. I just created itemized lists, then color coded with highlighters to get a rough sense of what the nature of each collection was. 00:08:28.000 --> 00:08:46.000 It's very inelegant, but it pretty to be the most important step to step, to start making definitive shapes out of everything I needed to just sit with my list of my favorite highlighters before I could bring a report to the headline with a digestible report of what we had and where 00:08:46.000 --> 00:08:57.000 we could go in the future, and this process was used for all of the materials I've gone over to prove most helpful for the archival boxes all right. Next slide. 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:00.000 I'm sure you might all you might have been thinking. 00:09:00.000 --> 00:09:07.000 I hear all I'm hearing is what you don't know here's just an example of the records that I have been working with. 00:09:07.000 --> 00:09:08.000 It's it's a great gift form for donations to our reference library. 00:09:08.000 --> 00:09:26.000 Not so much for formal accession purposes and record keeping honestly, a a lot of this has been a bit of an archaeological dig next slide. 00:09:26.000 --> 00:09:31.000 So I have been doing all this work. A huge part has been educating myself and familiarizing myself with the best practices, but the next step in the organization is how to take that and save everyone. 00:09:31.000 --> 00:09:47.000 The time that I went through. For this I initially started thinking, oh, I need to flip the triangle, because, you know, for thing we learned phones. 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:53.000 And as librarians. We do this, but that was not the learning tool, the visualization that actually helped me explain it to my fellow staff members. 00:09:53.000 --> 00:10:04.000 Next slide you'll see some fairly creative little doodles. 00:10:04.000 --> 00:10:07.000 It has been. Answering, what's the difference between how we treat our general collection as a whole and an archival? 00:10:07.000 --> 00:10:15.000 One is the same word. It's collection. I have had the best success explaining the difference between tree resin and fossilized amber. 00:10:15.000 --> 00:10:27.000 It's quite, simple, but it's effective. Something that is fluid versus something. 00:10:27.000 --> 00:10:30.000 That is much more stasis, and you don't go in and deal with things. 00:10:30.000 --> 00:10:40.000 So that's what it clicked for the other staff members, and just to round it out, I would like to next slide, show you all my own inverted try. 00:10:40.000 --> 00:10:42.000 Oh, unfortunately for time, we're gonna have to skip this. 00:10:42.000 --> 00:10:48.000 This is just something that is dealing with. How I'm proving the archives worth 2. 00:10:48.000 --> 00:10:49.000 The outside. If you have any questions about that, feel free to ask. 00:10:49.000 --> 00:11:01.000 But here's the visualization, my inverted triangle, pouring all of my work into a continuity resource binder. 00:11:01.000 --> 00:11:15.000 If I do this, and do not put my reasoning in by, it's by creating record of my decision, making, and helpful resources. I'm setting a precedent that will ensure everyone else who works on archives at vcoms will have to Macgyver things. 00:11:15.000 --> 00:11:19.000 Just a little bit less all that. You'll see some Merrick resources up there. 00:11:19.000 --> 00:11:32.000 All of that is going into the white binder. Alright, and I do believe my 10 min are about up, and so I'm clear the floor. Thank you so much. 00:11:32.000 --> 00:11:39.000 Alright! Thank you, Anne. Alright, much like Anne. I also work at a university. 00:11:39.000 --> 00:11:44.000 That's heavy in health sciences. My name is Tara Wink. 00:11:44.000 --> 00:11:51.000 I'm the historical collections, librarian and archivist, at the University of Maryland, Btimore, in the Health Sciences, Human services, Library. 00:11:51.000 --> 00:11:52.000 So a little bit about the University of Maryland, Baltimore. 00:11:52.000 --> 00:12:02.000 We are located downtown Baltimore, surrounded by businesses very close to the oreoles. 00:12:02.000 --> 00:12:05.000 All of these amazing things that are in urban campus. 00:12:05.000 --> 00:12:19.000 We were founded in 1807. As the College of Medicine in Maryland, and we trace our date to that we trace our founding to that date which makes us the oldest University of Maryland campus in the State system of Maryland. 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:30.000 We have roughly 7,000 students across 7 professional schools, so heavily professional studies and graduate studies not many undergraduate. 00:12:30.000 --> 00:12:39.000 The Hsl. Or the Sciences and Human Services Library at Umb is located right in the center of campus. 00:12:39.000 --> 00:12:48.000 We serve 6 of the 7 professional schools we do have a law school which has its own library, and we are the oldest library on campus. 00:12:48.000 --> 00:12:49.000 Our founding with an 1813, with the purchase of a medical collection from Dr. 00:12:49.000 --> 00:13:06.000 John Crawford, who happened to be one of our faculty, passed away, and his collection was deemed very valuable and worthy by the at the time, so we purchased it, and that is where we trace our history. 00:13:06.000 --> 00:13:07.000 So we believe we could be the oldest health sciences. 00:13:07.000 --> 00:13:23.000 All right, oldest library associated with a school of medicine in the country, but it's hard to prove that, so I'm sure all of you have these 4 stories and these things that you find. 00:13:23.000 --> 00:13:28.000 But this is my story. I started at Umb in 2018. 00:13:28.000 --> 00:13:33.000 I was the only staff member in the department, and the first professionally trained archivist. 00:13:33.000 --> 00:13:38.000 So as you probably many of you have started in some more rules. 00:13:38.000 --> 00:13:41.000 The collection was under the well meaning care of librarians. 00:13:41.000 --> 00:13:49.000 For many, many years prior to my starting date, which meant that our book collections were in fantastic order. 00:13:49.000 --> 00:14:04.000 Very well catalogued, however, our manuscript and our Google stuff was looking a little bit like this, found a lot of moving boxes, a lot of collection thrown together in one box, not knowing what collection where one collection started and where one ended. 00:14:04.000 --> 00:14:10.000 So there was not a lot of physical control over the collection, let alone and lack control. 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:17.000 There's also lots still, lots of vertical files and collection being pulled together to make library collection. 00:14:17.000 --> 00:14:24.000 Rather than expecting our quarter, finding Aids. 00:14:24.000 --> 00:14:27.000 I put them in quotes because they were hardly finding it. 00:14:27.000 --> 00:14:42.000 They seem to be more like containerless, as you can see on the left, with inventories, longer biographies, just descriptions of what was in in the filing cabinet rather than a finding it. 00:14:42.000 --> 00:14:53.000 Finding it on the right is actually for the collection that I'm going to be using as the example for this presentation, however, it is for the selection which was not collection. 00:14:53.000 --> 00:15:01.000 Created by Dr. Eugene. Instead, it was named after him, and I'll explain a little bit more about him in a minute. 00:15:01.000 --> 00:15:10.000 But just interesting to note that the production, as described, is not the actual manuscript collection that I'm going to be talking about. 00:15:10.000 --> 00:15:19.000 It is a book collection that was named. So this is one of my favorite photos that I've ever taken of the collection. 00:15:19.000 --> 00:15:34.000 The Cordel manuscript collection was found in this very archival box, also stating very welluable to be processed, and you can see what it looked like when you open the box. 00:15:34.000 --> 00:15:42.000 Lots of papers stacked together in those awful 3 ring binder scrapbooking type material. 00:15:42.000 --> 00:15:51.000 Not archival on at all. So a little context for the cord out Turner, Cornell papers work with the Turner Cordell families. 00:15:51.000 --> 00:15:57.000 We're very wealthy, influential, Southern families connected through marriage of Dr. 00:15:57.000 --> 00:16:03.000 Levi O'connor Cordel, who is a graduate of the University of Maryland, Baltimore, and Christine Turner. 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:12.000 Other collection documents. This family in their lives they were again Southern Southern families, so they were slave owners. 00:16:12.000 --> 00:16:16.000 There's information about their leaves as well as their businesses. 00:16:16.000 --> 00:16:17.000 But the large portion of the of the collection contains the papers of the team, Turner cord out, and Dr. 00:16:17.000 --> 00:16:44.000 Eugene. It was her son. Dr. Cordell was important to you, and being because he was the first librarian, he actually is a medical doctor and a graduate of the School of Medicine in 1868, however, he was the one responsible for organizing the library making it Usable for 00:16:44.000 --> 00:16:50.000 people. And actually we have him to think for the rare collections and rare books that we have. 00:16:50.000 --> 00:17:00.000 He his the again the book collection was named after him in honor to honor him as the first librarian, but he was a Confederate army. 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:06.000 He was in the Confederate army, and a large portion of the papers, or his letters to his mother. 00:17:06.000 --> 00:17:15.000 While in that war, so much like Anus Macgyver. 00:17:15.000 --> 00:17:21.000 I had to look around the library and campus to utilize what was their it was inexpensive and thankfully through early networking I was able to actually get, and I still do get 3 archival boxes. 00:17:21.000 --> 00:17:40.000 Yes, you heard that free archival boxes from our school of dentistry are the National Museum of Dentistry, which is on our campus, and they hey, head! 00:17:40.000 --> 00:17:44.000 On the accession, then gotten rid of a lot of collections that still have these boxes. 00:17:44.000 --> 00:17:47.000 So they offered them to me, and thankfully I was able to get these. 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:54.000 So I was able to house these in proper ways, but I also have used things like word, excel. 00:17:54.000 --> 00:18:03.000 Adobe, and our unb digital archive, which is a D space platform and it's actually hosted by a company called Admir. 00:18:03.000 --> 00:18:13.000 Early on it made the decision not to pursue a installation or the purchase of an archival management tool like archive space. 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:16.000 I just knew that I didn't have the time to really do this. 00:18:16.000 --> 00:18:23.000 Well, and we didn't have the resources or meaning money or time to meet it really work well for our institutions. 00:18:23.000 --> 00:18:33.000 I wasn't sure that the use of the collections warranted it, so I decided to use what I had available to me rather than try to go that route. 00:18:33.000 --> 00:18:41.000 So while this may not be the most arguably sound thing, it has main things more accessible, and people can use the materials. 00:18:41.000 --> 00:18:51.000 And you know I try to go to bed at night thinking I've done the best that I can, so we are putting our finding needs in our digital archive using these different tools. 00:18:51.000 --> 00:18:53.000 And I'll describe how I'm using these tools. 00:18:53.000 --> 00:19:02.000 So first word over time, I've actually created a word, a template for finance, which is what you're seeing on the left. 00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:09.000 These are all dax compliant. These are the ones I commonly use in our client when needed. 00:19:09.000 --> 00:19:18.000 I do add more, and I do use more, but these are the general ones that tend to be the most important for us. 00:19:18.000 --> 00:19:26.000 2 of these. Right? You're actually seeing what the what part of the the Cordel Turner collection, what it looks like. 00:19:26.000 --> 00:19:35.000 I made a probably not normal archival decision to go into intense detail about each of the family members that are in the collection. 00:19:35.000 --> 00:19:46.000 So our biographical history is rather long, but it does outline the different people who are in the collection, and what their roles were within the parent, and why they are there. 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:51.000 So I also use, excel pretty excessively. 00:19:51.000 --> 00:19:56.000 This is a long list of the different layers that are in the collection. 00:19:56.000 --> 00:19:59.000 Comment date. Who is to who it's from? 00:19:59.000 --> 00:20:16.000 The location. The notes are really for me. So when I'm writing the biographical history, I can take these notes and kind of describe what's in the collection for the scope of content as well as the fiber 3 this ex excel spreadsheets are also in the final word dark 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:21.000 or final, if I need just smaller and cleaner. 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:23.000 So here's the adobe Photoshop. 00:20:23.000 --> 00:20:27.000 Adobe, acrobat, edf version. 00:20:27.000 --> 00:20:31.000 Also, we create the Pdf out of the word document. 00:20:31.000 --> 00:20:36.000 Make it ocr capable, so that when you upload it people can use it. 00:20:36.000 --> 00:20:41.000 This also means that it cannot be edited once it's been uploaded to our digital archives. 00:20:41.000 --> 00:20:57.000 Here's their digital archive. Again, I said, this is the what was existing when I started, and the person who created it had the forethought to really create archival communities want for each of the schools. 00:20:57.000 --> 00:21:06.000 And there is one for the finding aid. So this is where we decided to put our 20 existing finding aids right now and more as we go. 00:21:06.000 --> 00:21:12.000 So there is a campus, historical collections, community. 00:21:12.000 --> 00:21:17.000 This is where our finding aids live there. This is the Turner Cordell family finding aid, as you can see, a Pdf. 00:21:17.000 --> 00:21:26.000 Little image of the Pdf is created, and then there is metadata associated with. 00:21:26.000 --> 00:21:41.000 I will put a link to this particular collection in the chat, but I do have to cut it off here, and just mention that there is a separate Cordel family election which has digitized letters from the family in it as well. 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:46.000 So this is made one spot for all the Turner credits family papers, people can use them and find them on the world. 00:21:46.000 --> 00:21:50.000 Wide web. Here is my contact information. I am happy to discuss this more, as you can see. 00:21:50.000 --> 00:22:05.000 I certainly have a lot to say, and I'm willing to talk more as needed. I'm gonna turn it over to Scott now. 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:21.000 My name's Scott Keefer, and I am the provincial archivist for the Daughters of Charity in Emmetsburg, Maryland, which is the repository for a community of Catholic sisters and their various works in the spiritual and Corporal worlds somewhere between 00:22:21.000 --> 00:22:28.000 those 2 worlds lies the digital world of digital preservation, which is what I would like to talk about today. 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:31.000 Next slide, please. 00:22:31.000 --> 00:22:38.000 Smith as an institutional background. We are funded directly by the community of sisters, and are their formal, archive. 00:22:38.000 --> 00:22:42.000 We are not affiliated or associated with a university or government institution. 00:22:42.000 --> 00:22:46.000 We are attached to a museum, but not a part of the museum. 00:22:46.000 --> 00:22:52.000 The community is incorporated under us. Law as a private nonprofit organization. 00:22:52.000 --> 00:23:00.000 Thus we are a private religious archive that allows public access with some restrictions on certain materials by decree of our capital. 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:08.000 In other words, we do not have the same mission that an organization like a university library or a government repository does. 00:23:08.000 --> 00:23:11.000 Next slide. 00:23:11.000 --> 00:23:17.000 Born data to file started arriving in the mid 2 thousands, and have only grown in volume since then. 00:23:17.000 --> 00:23:35.000 After about 2011, all records of the Council and the overwhelming majority of documents related to things like official meetings, and assemblies, became born digital this is, in addition to sets of photographs, oral histories that were only record digitally and every other type of record that now consists of bits 00:23:35.000 --> 00:23:45.000 and bytes over time they accumulated on a server with their location unrecorded, and no record of their existence and remaining vulnerable to digital loss. 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:56.000 We approached our it department about this, and they gave us the assurance, oh, don't worry, we backup everything every night, which was not exactly what we wanted to hear. 00:23:56.000 --> 00:24:02.000 And so our goal in all of this was to enact a digital preservation plan and start to put it in place and due to cost. 00:24:02.000 --> 00:24:09.000 And it restrictions a program like Preservica was not an option. 00:24:09.000 --> 00:24:12.000 I will also say that this is 2020, and preserve it. 00:24:12.000 --> 00:24:13.000 A starter did not exist yet. So it really really was not an option. 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:20.000 Next slide, please. 00:24:20.000 --> 00:24:25.000 We use the ndsa levels of digital preservation as our guide. 00:24:25.000 --> 00:24:28.000 Through all of this, I'm sure. Just like me. Many of you have been told. 00:24:28.000 --> 00:24:33.000 But think about where your institution lies on this scale. 00:24:33.000 --> 00:24:40.000 We looked at our state of digital preservation, we found that in most categories we were at a solid 0. 00:24:40.000 --> 00:24:44.000 I bring this up, because I certainly have felt the pressure to. You know. 00:24:44.000 --> 00:24:55.000 Keep up with the archival. Joneses, but the reality is that I'm sure there are a number of people in this virtual room who are also at 0 in a good number of these categories, we did not have to complete copies in separate locations. 00:24:55.000 --> 00:25:06.000 We were not checking integrity of information. We were not documenting file formats, and a very small fraction of our digital records had useful metadows. 00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:12.000 Decidedly sat at a one, was in delegating who had authority to our digital content. 00:25:12.000 --> 00:25:14.000 Next slide. 00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:23.000 As an example of some of this digital content, I'd like to show a digital version of Tara's box of mystery box of archival mystery a lot of our collections are organized by city. 00:25:23.000 --> 00:25:32.000 I hope you can reach what some of those say, but that's the Monthtreal Canada collection. 00:25:32.000 --> 00:25:37.000 And so in that digital file, there are photos which contain various access scans of physical materials in Jpegs that were made for researchers or ourselves. 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:47.000 Some reason. A photo. That's photos. 00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:48.000 Sister Marie Ross. Visit 2019, which are born digital files. 00:25:48.000 --> 00:25:58.000 No physical exists. They are in Jpegs, but at least the 5, their the folder name, has some useful information. 00:25:58.000 --> 00:26:07.000 We know exactly where that came from and why it's there, and one file that says, translations, Nicole, which are translations of French documents into English. 00:26:07.000 --> 00:26:11.000 For some reason their word docs, and apparently Nicole did those. 00:26:11.000 --> 00:26:13.000 And no, I don't know who Nicole is. 00:26:13.000 --> 00:26:17.000 Next slide, please. 00:26:17.000 --> 00:26:21.000 Our step. One, as with many projects, was to do a survey. 00:26:21.000 --> 00:26:22.000 This was a Covid era, remote access. Stay at home. 00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:31.000 Project where we went through each and every folder on the server, and check to see how much digital material there was. 00:26:31.000 --> 00:26:45.000 We were then able to detect patterns and set priorities for digital preservation, including top tier born digital materials with no physical analog alongside digitized AV materials that were on endangered formats. 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:53.000 Mid level priorities of complete scans of materials that were sometimes up to preservation standard. 00:26:53.000 --> 00:27:02.000 Sometimes they also weren't, and some lowest priority which were spot access scans or individual scans of documents or photographs. 00:27:02.000 --> 00:27:16.000 They were not complete collections, they were not even complete folders, and they were usually scanned as fairly generic names. Histories, photos, something like that next slide, please. 00:27:16.000 --> 00:27:28.000 In deciding what needed preserved. We noted the file path, the formats included in each location what the material appeared to be as best we could figure out, and any other preservation comments. 00:27:28.000 --> 00:27:35.000 We decided that upper tier records would be marked for digital preservation measures up to the lowest ndsa levels. 00:27:35.000 --> 00:27:45.000 The lowest tier. We're not included at this time, and mid-level records were marked for later review for quality control, incomplete metadata, or other issues. 00:27:45.000 --> 00:27:48.000 Next slide. 00:27:48.000 --> 00:27:55.000 In terms of tools. We did convince it to get us a cloud space that they determined was secure, which in our case was. 00:27:55.000 --> 00:28:03.000 And is your account. We are also looking for tools that we could run ourselves in the archives with minimal to no interference from our it department we set it on the program fixity which, with a $50 a year subscription. 00:28:03.000 --> 00:28:11.000 Yes, for $50 a year. Subscription. That's it. 00:28:11.000 --> 00:28:16.000 Would allow us to set our calendars and run our own check sums. 00:28:16.000 --> 00:28:21.000 The program would help create the preservation metadata which we could then store and track ourselves. 00:28:21.000 --> 00:28:26.000 We also purchased a few external hard drives, and use those as the official third backup. 00:28:26.000 --> 00:28:30.000 By a different method, which is one of the recommendations of the ends. 00:28:30.000 --> 00:28:37.000 Ndsa and next slide, please. That's an example of the start of one of the fixity. 00:28:37.000 --> 00:28:38.000 Scans, and so you can see there, it's scanned, you know. 00:28:38.000 --> 00:28:53.000 56,000 files or so. There were 64 that were moved to, renamed and a few others that had changes are removed, and so we could go and use that information. 00:28:53.000 --> 00:29:05.000 Figure out what needed happen, or if something went wrong, or if something perfectly reasonable occurred and if we really really needed to, we could pull from backup files as necessary. 00:29:05.000 --> 00:29:08.000 Next slide, please. 00:29:08.000 --> 00:29:18.000 After all, of this experimenting we were able to cutify for the first time a digital preservation workflow with a review, timeline in place to refine. 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:25.000 We have begun to enter to the enter the descriptive metadata into our catalogs, to make them findable, and part of our collection. 00:29:25.000 --> 00:29:26.000 So those born digital photos from Montreal, there's actually an entry for them. 00:29:26.000 --> 00:29:32.000 Now. And so if you's, you know, can search for system. 00:29:32.000 --> 00:29:38.000 Marie Ross, 2019 visit it is actually findable and discoverable. Now. 00:29:38.000 --> 00:29:41.000 Next slide. 00:29:41.000 --> 00:29:44.000 In terms of our goals, of reaching Ndsa Level one. 00:29:44.000 --> 00:29:55.000 It averages out that way. We found that once we had completed these steps for a highest priority materials, we could reasonably say that at least regarding them, we had reached level one. 00:29:55.000 --> 00:30:03.000 We're still definitely refining our procedures, adding metadata and reviewing mid-tier level records for determination. 00:30:03.000 --> 00:30:10.000 But we are able to sleep a lot better at night, knowing that our most at risk digital records have a base level of security. 00:30:10.000 --> 00:30:14.000 It's definitely an ongoing project, and we will never be there. 00:30:14.000 --> 00:30:32.000 The whole way, but this process provided us a level of security that we feel we are not threatened with an imminent digital apocalypse, and there is no longer a digital ticking time bomb for us to diffuse as the archival macgyvers that is the end of my section so I 00:30:32.000 --> 00:30:54.000 believe I will step aside and let Amy take the range from here. 00:30:54.000 --> 00:31:07.000 Maybe hopefully. 00:31:07.000 --> 00:31:08.000 Okay. Thank you all for bearing with me. Thanks, Scott. 00:31:08.000 --> 00:31:16.000 Hello, everyone! My name is Amy Poe. And I'm the collections manager for the military Women's Memorial. 00:31:16.000 --> 00:31:23.000 We preserve honor, and tell the stories of military women service to the nation with an emphasis on firsthand accounts. 00:31:23.000 --> 00:31:33.000 I'd like to tell you a little bit about the organization just to put my presentation and context next slide. Please. 00:31:33.000 --> 00:31:36.000 The Military Women's Memorial is a 501 C. 00:31:36.000 --> 00:31:52.000 3, which was authorized by Congressional legislation in 1,983, but built through the fundraising and advocacy of service women, many from the World War, 2 era who found themselves unrepresented by the monuments that are in the nation's capital, although we sit 00:31:52.000 --> 00:32:02.000 on Federal land. The memorial is supported entirely through private donations and grants, which makes our work a formidable task. 00:32:02.000 --> 00:32:03.000 The memorial is built in the semicircular wall that you can see in my background. Here. 00:32:03.000 --> 00:32:22.000 It's a ceremonial entrance to Arlington National Cemetery, and the wall was left uncompleted in 1932 and selected as a site for the Memorial to create the exhibit Gallery and event space that are inside and you've got a 00:32:22.000 --> 00:32:23.000 snapshot of one of our gallery niches. 00:32:23.000 --> 00:32:35.000 There, there was excavation done behind the wall, the memorial was completed, and dedicated in 1997, and we are the only national repository. 00:32:35.000 --> 00:32:39.000 That documents, all military women's service, our collections, someone. 00:32:39.000 --> 00:32:42.000 What you see here. We're establishing 1994, when there was recognition that artifacts would be needed to fill the gallery space. 00:32:42.000 --> 00:32:54.000 The Curator was hired in 1995. In this past October the Memorial celebrated its 20 fifth anniversary. 00:32:54.000 --> 00:33:06.000 Next slide, please. So a little bit about our collections. They're comprised of more than 8,000 donations, including artifact and archival resources, in a wide range of formats. 00:33:06.000 --> 00:33:24.000 We have textiles such as mill Service service uniforms, flags, quilt service, memorabilia, original correspondent, scrap books, diaries, military orders, personal and official photos dating from the Spanish-american war to the present day, and then a variety of 00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:38.000 materials, some of which documents, institutional history of the creation of the memorial, and our events over time, but also things like Vinyl records which recorded letters home to families from World War, 2. 00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:45.000 And World war, 2. Era footage, the photo that you see here is our offsite storage. 00:33:45.000 --> 00:33:46.000 We don't have storage at the Memorial proper or in our foundation offices. 00:33:46.000 --> 00:33:57.000 We partner with a history factory in Chantilly, so that we can have climate controlled conditions for our collections. 00:33:57.000 --> 00:34:03.000 We also have an oral history collection of more than 1,400 oral histories and growing. 00:34:03.000 --> 00:34:08.000 We also operate a small research library. So our collections are rich for research. 00:34:08.000 --> 00:34:19.000 They touch on a host of issues relating, not just to military women's service, but women's societal standing advancement, racial integration, and women's rights. 00:34:19.000 --> 00:34:40.000 Next slide, please. So while paper clips can instill, dread, and loading in the hearts and minds of artists, Macgyver saw them differently, and I had a laugh when I came across this quote, although paper Clips might not be our first go to solution for anything using the examples first of 00:34:40.000 --> 00:35:00.000 the implementation of our new collections management system. And next, the example of the overhaul of our research library today, I'd like to share with you how Macgyver's spirit of resourcefulness and determination can serve you in overcoming some of the challenges in your archives next slide. 00:35:00.000 --> 00:35:20.000 I'll begin by describing some of the realities we were faced with in adopting a new collections management system something that needed to support our workflows, but also make our resources accessible with a public facing portal, all on a limited budget when I arrived at the military women's 00:35:20.000 --> 00:35:23.000 memorial as a newly minted librarian and archivist. 00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:41.000 In 2020. The organization had a two-deck's old database which was unstable, and although the collection had undergone a complete physical inventory with Grant funding and supportive and outside consultant to establish physical and intellectual control of the collection i've got 00:35:41.000 --> 00:35:43.000 a little snapshot of that here in the slide. 00:35:43.000 --> 00:35:51.000 We needed a way to pair the inventory location information with the information in the legacy database. 00:35:51.000 --> 00:36:00.000 Also I joined the staff during Covid, and we had a very minimal web presence at that time. 00:36:00.000 --> 00:36:19.000 In part because of that reason. There was minimal awareness of the collection, and it was restricted to on-site visitors which was particularly problematic during Covid, due to limited staff time, and having only one school trained archivists on staff we really needed a solution that would be easy 00:36:19.000 --> 00:36:30.000 to implement with a minimal learning curve. We also had a very limited budget that we had to advocate for to put any system in place next slide. 00:36:30.000 --> 00:36:33.000 Please. 00:36:33.000 --> 00:36:48.000 At first glance the solution seemed clear to me that we needed to adopt archive space or another open source solution because they're virtually free and membership fees are low for an organization of our size but then I had it exact and more closely are realities. 00:36:48.000 --> 00:36:49.000 Why not an open source solution? Why not archive space? Well, many of our collection donations are small. 00:36:49.000 --> 00:37:05.000 They consist of museum objects and a limited number of papers and images which we're not necessarily well suited to the hierarchies that can be created in archive space. 00:37:05.000 --> 00:37:10.000 Also our outsource it team is configured for office, supported Pcs. 00:37:10.000 --> 00:37:14.000 And we have a non-cloud storage available to us. 00:37:14.000 --> 00:37:21.000 A network, basically. But we're not really configured for hosting of specialized technologies. 00:37:21.000 --> 00:37:23.000 We do tend to digitize on demand according to the needs of researchers and for exhibit planning. 00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:45.000 But we need needed a place, for we could co-locate descriptive metadata with our images. And this was not really available through our archive space without implementation of a digital asset management system for which we definitely had no. 00:37:45.000 --> 00:37:57.000 Furthermore, our tech support and our staff. We're not equipped to handle data migration and to integrate data sets from excel and other platforms together. 00:37:57.000 --> 00:38:07.000 I will point out that access to memory and collective access offer the capability to have a public facing portal, and the descriptive metadata co-located. 00:38:07.000 --> 00:38:08.000 But they were not really viable options for us, primarily, for cost reasons. 00:38:08.000 --> 00:38:16.000 Next slide, please. 00:38:16.000 --> 00:38:26.000 Instead of going with archive space or a free solution, we opted to select archivara, Lucidia software solution. 00:38:26.000 --> 00:38:37.000 Why are Vera? They provided us complete support for our data migration, which was less costly than any of the other options that we explored. 00:38:37.000 --> 00:38:54.000 Architecture is also a great fit for our collection attributes, because we are able to describe things a little more effectively, and not necessarily with hierarchies that would be tend to be more archival in nature. 00:38:54.000 --> 00:39:03.000 We do have an annual contract with them, but overall it's less costly than if we had hired a part time. 00:39:03.000 --> 00:39:11.000 Staff member to work on the collection. So the real, the solution really supports our functionality with staff. 00:39:11.000 --> 00:39:15.000 We haven't place now. The software is updated automatically. 00:39:15.000 --> 00:39:26.000 Those updates are included in our subscription, and we're able to describe and make visible a range of media formats without a digital asset management system. 00:39:26.000 --> 00:39:27.000 We have full tech support for our verification. 00:39:27.000 --> 00:39:41.000 If we run into any issues, it also moves us in the direction of adopting archival descriptive standards, and eventually we'll have the capability of creating finding aids in encoded orival description. 00:39:41.000 --> 00:39:55.000 When we're ready for that next step, it also provides integrated research requests where we receive email alerts. 00:39:55.000 --> 00:39:58.000 And then for the future, we do have a member database which is rich with biographical data on our service. 00:39:58.000 --> 00:40:10.000 Women. We have a configurable Api. If we decide in the future to do an integration. 00:40:10.000 --> 00:40:21.000 Our vetting process for a new collections management system made it clear that the free solution is not always the best option. 00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:29.000 Next slide, please. The second example that I'd like to highlight for you is the overhaul of the military Women's Memorial Research Library. 00:40:29.000 --> 00:40:47.000 We adopted a low cost online surgical catalog and completed a complete overhaul of her physical space, which you see pictured here in a somewhat a state of disarray as we disassembled and got ready to renew the space you see the library we have a lot of 00:40:47.000 --> 00:40:58.000 sticky notes in it, tags hanging off of books, and these were our classification system, which was improvised by well-meaning volunteers years ago. 00:40:58.000 --> 00:41:03.000 But we were able to replace that with the support of generous donations of unneeded supplies from other repositories and volunteer support from Team Rubicon. 00:41:03.000 --> 00:41:16.000 Some of their team members are pictured next slide. Please. 00:41:16.000 --> 00:41:36.000 What were we able to accomplish for under $1,500 we purchased the supplies that we needed to care for our books to protect them, to repair them, to bar code them and implement a classification system and apply fine labels we built our library catalog on library thing which 00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:42.000 is a free, free tool available to anyone. You can create a home library with it. 00:41:42.000 --> 00:41:55.000 But Tiny cat is a software that we adopted as our discovery layer, and it costs us only $250 a year to have complete online, searchable catalog of our library. 00:41:55.000 --> 00:41:56.000 We received a donation of free shelving through the generosity of Hillwood Museum, and estates. 00:41:56.000 --> 00:42:04.000 When, they no longer needed shelving. Having moved into a new space. 00:42:04.000 --> 00:42:10.000 I've mentioned previously the volunteer assistance from Team Rubicon. 00:42:10.000 --> 00:42:27.000 We also acquired free archival boxes from the American Institute of Architects, which offered them up to the Merit community, and these will have the original manuscripts that we have that yet have yet to be cataloged finally, we were able to replace her tables and 00:42:27.000 --> 00:42:31.000 chairs with furniture that was no longer needed. 00:42:31.000 --> 00:42:34.000 From a nearby office. Closer. Next slide. Please. 00:42:34.000 --> 00:42:38.000 Hi, Amy, I'm so sorry to interrupt, but your time is up. 00:42:38.000 --> 00:42:39.000 So thank you. 00:42:39.000 --> 00:42:47.000 Okay, basically, here's our catalog. And I'll just move you through the images here, if you just kind of froze through to the end. 00:42:47.000 --> 00:43:00.000 And I'll just conclude by saying that I'd like to encourage you to, as you try to overcome challenges in your archives to re, to keep all of options on the table. 00:43:00.000 --> 00:43:05.000 Look for updates to work with other repositories. 00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:06.000 One man's trash is another treasure. And is Melissa emphasize? 00:43:06.000 --> 00:43:17.000 We'll emphasize, look to supplementing staff and volunteer support don't get too caught up in the ideal solution, but rather move in the right direction. Thank you. 00:43:17.000 --> 00:43:38.000 And sorry for running over. 00:43:38.000 --> 00:43:43.000 Hi, so I hope everybody can hear me, and I hope you can see me. 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:48.000 I can still see Amy, so I'm not sure if you can see me. 00:43:48.000 --> 00:43:52.000 But I'm gonna go ahead. So Hello! My name's Laura Christensen. 00:43:52.000 --> 00:43:57.000 I'm the curator of manuscripts and archives at the Thomas Bals Library in Leesburg, Virginia. 00:43:57.000 --> 00:44:01.000 A few notes about our repository, and we are a local history and genealogy. 00:44:01.000 --> 00:44:08.000 Library, that has been the position of being owned by a town government. 00:44:08.000 --> 00:44:13.000 So the town of Leesburg is a large town in northern Virginia, and in early nineties the county library system. 00:44:13.000 --> 00:44:32.000 It was no longer going to operate our library which has been in operation since around 1922, in the building that you see pictured here, and it is in the nineties. 00:44:32.000 --> 00:44:42.000 The town was approached from the county, decided to no longer operate the building, which was then about 70 years ago, and the they decided they would take the library over. 00:44:42.000 --> 00:44:57.000 And while the history of our library is as a public library, a general circulating library at that time the library had already been switching to being a special collections library, and we've continued that trend. 00:44:57.000 --> 00:45:18.000 So as we collect local history materials related to Northern Virginia, specifically Loudon County and Leesburg, and those include everything you know, archival collections, read books, oral histories as well as books related to local history and genealogy. 00:45:18.000 --> 00:45:32.000 We do continue our history as a public institution. However, so we are open to the public 7 days a week, and we have both evening hours, and we offer free access. 00:45:32.000 --> 00:45:36.000 There's no membership you don't have to belong to an institution. 00:45:36.000 --> 00:45:37.000 And so everybody is welcome to come to the library as of that access is really one of our key. 00:45:37.000 --> 00:45:45.000 Motivating facts. So we try to make things as successful as possible. 00:45:45.000 --> 00:45:52.000 And I'm gonna talk to you today about one of those collections. 00:45:52.000 --> 00:45:54.000 So next slide, please. 00:45:54.000 --> 00:46:01.000 And that is our oral history collections. We are in a wonderful position in that over the last. Oh, gosh! 00:46:01.000 --> 00:46:22.000 It's getting to be like 50 years. The library has been accruing oral and audio collection, so those include among the top and most use are Black History Committee, oral history Project, which was collected between 2,000, and the present which has I think, over a hundred interviews 00:46:22.000 --> 00:46:36.000 and also a loudly funny oral history project which capture a lot of people throughout the history of the county, talking about various aspects, everything from civil rights to education, to daily life. 00:46:36.000 --> 00:46:56.000 We also have some video based collections such as our Thomas Falls Library Oral History Collection, which is one where the friends organization of our library selects somebody in the community to interview every year, and they do a you know, full high production video of them talking for like 2 h. 00:46:56.000 --> 00:47:05.000 And then they do a Debut and it's really quite in addition to this, we have a radio collection that has about 700 h of radio content. 00:47:05.000 --> 00:47:12.000 In the early 2 thousands we were approached by people who were interested in these questions being more accessible. 00:47:12.000 --> 00:47:13.000 So we tried a lot of different methods to do that. 00:47:13.000 --> 00:47:21.000 The first step was someone created an access based index, or rather, I should say, they started to. 00:47:21.000 --> 00:47:38.000 They never finished it. We have transcripts from any of the interviews, and there was an effort to make sure that transcripts were available for all of the available interviews so we're in an invisible position there around 2014 a donor approach to us and said these should 00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:42.000 be available and work. That's possible in your reading room other than you know. 00:47:42.000 --> 00:47:49.000 People coming in and you getting out the Cassette tape player and putting it on a desk and letting it and giving them some. 00:47:49.000 --> 00:47:53.000 Your phones, obviously having people listen to their interviews on the original. 00:47:53.000 --> 00:48:05.000 Cassette is also not a great idea, so they provided some funding that allowed us to pursue digitizing the collections as we were then, and since then we've managed to continue digitizing everything. 00:48:05.000 --> 00:48:15.000 That is, however, the challenge then became, how are we going to present this to people the next slide? Please? 00:48:15.000 --> 00:48:20.000 We approached our it department because we are part of the town government. 00:48:20.000 --> 00:48:28.000 We have to go through it. Scott's comments about creating a solution that avoided it's interaction is enviable. 00:48:28.000 --> 00:48:30.000 I have to. I'm joking in some extent. 00:48:30.000 --> 00:48:51.000 Our it department usually is very supportive, although we encounter many issues, and communicating what our needs are, and meetings them halfway through to speak, and with the solutions that they are willing and able to provide us with and the solution for oral history and making it more accessible in our reading room is 00:48:51.000 --> 00:49:01.000 it good summary of this sort of ongoing conversation, so at the time we wanted to use a widely available oral history, oh, software is solution like the own solution. 00:49:01.000 --> 00:49:10.000 And from the center for oral history and platform. 00:49:10.000 --> 00:49:19.000 That is exact. Leading my data and providing access to our they did not like that because it was open source and open source is okay. 00:49:19.000 --> 00:49:31.000 We are not allowed to do anything like that, and we understand that we need to work with them because they have wider considerations, like protecting important things, such as the water system, the airport, etcetera. 00:49:31.000 --> 00:49:35.000 And that's fine. All scale import. However, they are. 00:49:35.000 --> 00:49:40.000 We're not willing to, you know. Go for something that is less open source, either. 00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:46.000 That was maybe more subscription. And they also did not really want us to put this content accessible on the web. 00:49:46.000 --> 00:49:54.000 So we needed an in library solution. And what we ended up with is a kiosk where there was a touch screen, and you could sit down and you can see the screens here. 00:49:54.000 --> 00:50:07.000 You can browse through individual questions. Click, go to an interview, and then see the audio or video content. 00:50:07.000 --> 00:50:08.000 However, what was not great about this system, although it did provide in library access, which was okay. 00:50:08.000 --> 00:50:18.000 It's better than you know was that they wanted us to operate this in a sharepoint system. 00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:28.000 So just using Microsoft sharepoints, and we had to produce. 00:50:28.000 --> 00:50:44.000 I that could the access evenly within this house, within the sharepoint, and then maintain within sharepoint. So we had to take all of our digitized audio and create video for it, using photographs in the background. 00:50:44.000 --> 00:50:59.000 However, the reason they wanted to use Sharepoint was that the new town was at that point very invested, and using this for and interact with system for housing, government documents and things like that. 00:50:59.000 --> 00:51:07.000 And that was largely based on one person in the it department, who was a huge supporter of it, and really wanted it to go places. 00:51:07.000 --> 00:51:16.000 What eventually happened was, that person left the town and nobody else in the it department really has a knowledge or interest in support. 00:51:16.000 --> 00:51:22.000 The Sharepoint system, and particularly in doing some of the labor intensive back end work that was required to keep this system going. 00:51:22.000 --> 00:51:31.000 It would disconnect regularly. Files would get lost in something. 00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:35.000 I'm not really sure how, and they would only provide limited access. 00:51:35.000 --> 00:51:44.000 To administer this software. And we worked with the remaining it staff and made some value efforts, but eventually it just died. 00:51:44.000 --> 00:51:49.000 And next slide. Please. 00:51:49.000 --> 00:51:53.000 So we're stuck. What do we do? Where can we go? 00:51:53.000 --> 00:52:05.000 We went down the same road we went down before with the it department, and pointing out largely available solutions, such as you know we could do in a Mecca instead, and we had continuing conversations. 00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:21.000 There had been some change in the It departments during this time, where they were more willing to embrace cloud solutions, but they were still against open source, and they were still and kind of against like hosting things elsewhere. 00:52:21.000 --> 00:52:30.000 They have some. So we thought, What can we do that's going to work within their framework. 00:52:30.000 --> 00:52:34.000 Things that they already have. What do we have on hand that we can work with? 00:52:34.000 --> 00:52:42.000 So we thought about it. And we're like one thing about us and the government aspect of this is access. 00:52:42.000 --> 00:52:47.000 We want transparency. And we wanna be able to be able to access this. 00:52:47.000 --> 00:52:50.000 So we looked at what tools they had, and one thing that they had, as you can see, here, we're webcast. 00:52:50.000 --> 00:53:03.000 So we were town, the town Council meetings, commission meetings, other things like that were made publicly accessible through a existing graniteist webcast platform. 00:53:03.000 --> 00:53:08.000 It wasn't ideal. It's really aimed at. There's a recording. 00:53:08.000 --> 00:53:15.000 Here's a recording not doing more complex organizations of data but you can see it has features that we wanted. 00:53:15.000 --> 00:53:24.000 So we could take our transcript. We could take our metadata, and we could make the recordings that we had more browser. 00:53:24.000 --> 00:53:31.000 It was like, Uhhuh, how are we gonna make this work next slide? Please? 00:53:31.000 --> 00:53:37.000 We had to do some compromising. 00:53:37.000 --> 00:53:53.000 We're no longer able to create collections. However, we are able to list content in groups of collections in a trade-off, for this, people can now search across our video and audio content. 00:53:53.000 --> 00:53:54.000 So they will go to a page that's on our website. 00:53:54.000 --> 00:54:03.000 So we did win. There they can click in the search archives box, and they can type in a keyword. 00:54:03.000 --> 00:54:05.000 Their interest in, for instance, schools, and it'll bring up a list of videos. 00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:20.000 They'll get. They can see immediately if there's a video and audio recording or a transcript, and then they will also, be able to see the recording and read the transcript as they go. 00:54:20.000 --> 00:54:25.000 And I think I have one more slide. 00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:34.000 I do. In addition to the wonderful platform that we're going to have available, we do now also have a backup. 00:54:34.000 --> 00:54:38.000 So we have a past perfect online inst that we can use the pinch to present this material. 00:54:38.000 --> 00:54:43.000 We don't want to but we would realize we intend to have a backup plan in hand and also in the next 3 months we are launching our own online catalog. 00:54:43.000 --> 00:54:48.000 That will include our oral history recordings that will link to these recordings online. 00:54:48.000 --> 00:54:58.000 So people will be able to discover the recordings through another. 00:54:58.000 --> 00:55:06.000 So. So we've learned a couple things, work with what you have, and also always have a backup plan. 00:55:06.000 --> 00:55:34.000 Thank you very much. 00:55:34.000 --> 00:55:40.000 Melissa. I can see, or you just need to. 00:55:40.000 --> 00:55:46.000 There. It took a minute to get here. I'm sorry I'm Melissa Davis. 00:55:46.000 --> 00:55:48.000 I'm the director of library and archives at the George C. 00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:51.000 Marshall Foundation, and I am a Lone Ranger. 00:55:51.000 --> 00:55:59.000 So I'm going to be talking about a workforce or volunteers in the archives. 00:55:59.000 --> 00:56:09.000 Next slide, please. The Georgie Marshall Foundation was formed by President Truman before he left office. 00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:10.000 The building is in Lexington, Virginia, we are a 501 C. 00:56:10.000 --> 00:56:16.000 3, but we're surrounded by the Virginia Military Institute. 00:56:16.000 --> 00:56:26.000 The collections here, and the library books here are related to Marshall, and time and place, and of course the flagship collection are the Fif year career. 00:56:26.000 --> 00:56:32.000 Marshall papers next slide, please. 00:56:32.000 --> 00:56:35.000 20 years ago we had 5 full time people in the library. 00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:38.000 Now I'm alone, so I haven't too much to do. 00:56:38.000 --> 00:56:48.000 I have languishing projects, and such as partially scanned photo collections in a tremendous backlog as you see in this picture. 00:56:48.000 --> 00:56:58.000 So I get volunteers, and I have had really good luck with getting volunteers you have to go out and find your volunteers. 00:56:58.000 --> 00:57:18.000 They don't always come knocking on your door I've had really good luck with home school groups, with high school students, national honor society students who have a service requirement with internship students from local colleges, and then the greatest majority of my volunteers come from local colleges. And then the greatest majority of my volunteers come from a local 00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:21.000 retirement community. So those are some places where you can look for volunteers. 00:57:21.000 --> 00:57:29.000 I do have more volunteers during the school year, because the greatest majority of mine are students or retired folks. 00:57:29.000 --> 00:57:32.000 And that works out well for my organization, because in the summer time it is prime research season, and I'm very busy with researchers. 00:57:32.000 --> 00:57:46.000 So I have fewer volunteers than in the summer time, but you have to decide what works for you next slide. 00:57:46.000 --> 00:57:50.000 You should definitely interview your volunteers, discover their interest. 00:57:50.000 --> 00:58:01.000 What their past work and volunteer experience has been, maybe have a list of projects that you have ongoing because they may not know what you're doing and what they would find interesting. 00:58:01.000 --> 00:58:06.000 The projects absolutely must be flexible with open-ended completion. 00:58:06.000 --> 00:58:15.000 Dates for volunteers to successfully work on them, which allows for people to take vacations and go to graduations and things like that. 00:58:15.000 --> 00:58:18.000 You might decide that you want to have a contract for students who are fulfilling service hours for a requirement at school. 00:58:18.000 --> 00:58:31.000 I found that that works very well, and it also gives them something deter in at the completion of their volunteer time. 00:58:31.000 --> 00:58:42.000 Please don't be discouraged if we volunteer doesn't work out, or if a volunteer leaves, Macgyver never quit when he had a problem. 00:58:42.000 --> 00:58:45.000 So you don't quit either. Look instead at what's been accomplished and and what the volunteer was able to do to move a project forward. 00:58:45.000 --> 00:59:07.000 This is a picture of my volunteer, Carol. He's from the local retirement community, and he single-handedly, completely reset the library here and, said he thoroughly enjoyed doing it. Next slide, please. 00:59:07.000 --> 00:59:14.000 Training is time, but volunteers are for small multipliers, so you should welcome and encourage questions. 00:59:14.000 --> 00:59:19.000 You shed, be patient. When the same question is asked more than one time. 00:59:19.000 --> 00:59:25.000 Remember your first archival experience, and all that you didn't know, and all that you needed to learn. 00:59:25.000 --> 00:59:31.000 This is via my cadet, Noah. He was my volunteer, my intern last summer. 00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:40.000 He had no experience. When he came to me working in an archive, and he spent the summer working with some of my problem exceptions and solving issues. 00:59:40.000 --> 00:59:44.000 Next slide, please. 00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:48.000 You should definitely make your volunteers part of the team. 00:59:48.000 --> 01:00:00.000 Talk about programming and educational efforts that are going on in your organization invite them to programs at no charge, definitely appreciate them, and food is always good. 01:00:00.000 --> 01:00:11.000 This is my volunteer team at our organization Christmas party last year, and I think they had a good time next slide. Please. 01:00:11.000 --> 01:00:15.000 Ask your volunteers to be thinkers when they're working. 01:00:15.000 --> 01:00:22.000 Sometimes they will come up with great ideas for improving our efficiency, or completingion time on a project. 01:00:22.000 --> 01:00:23.000 They might even have ideas for new projects that you hadn't thought of. 01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:32.000 These are 3 elders, no churches, Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. 01:00:32.000 --> 01:00:41.000 They usually come in pairs, but we had 3 for a while, and they were scanning photo collection with Metadata on the back of the photo. 01:00:41.000 --> 01:00:46.000 And so the 3 guys said, You know, scanning is the simple, quick part. 01:00:46.000 --> 01:00:47.000 The metadata takes time do you have another laptop? 01:00:47.000 --> 01:01:01.000 And so they had one elder scanning, and 2 elders transcribing the information, and they got a huge amount done in a short amount of time, and I was grateful for their thinking on this project. Next slide. 01:01:01.000 --> 01:01:04.000 Please. 01:01:04.000 --> 01:01:09.000 With guidance. Have your volunteers do a social media takeover day let them show what they're doing. 01:01:09.000 --> 01:01:20.000 Talk about who they are, and how they found the organization why, they think what they're doing is valuable. 01:01:20.000 --> 01:01:31.000 As for blog contributions about their activities in the collections that they're working with and and with their permission, you know, include your volunteers and open houses, include them in libraries and archive tours, even in videos, that you might make in your library and archive. 01:01:31.000 --> 01:01:37.000 This is my intern, and some of you might remember my daughter Ain, who presented with me last year. 01:01:37.000 --> 01:01:49.000 She's a library science student then now. Graduated she wrote a blog on a collection that she was accessioning. 01:01:49.000 --> 01:01:50.000 That was from a dual military couple in World War. 2. 01:01:50.000 --> 01:02:02.000 And how they maintained their love affair through letters, and it was a wonderful, wonderful blog, so allow your volunteers to contribute to you next slide. 01:02:02.000 --> 01:02:13.000 Please, amazing things will happen if you give your volunteers the training and the permission to do the things that need to be done. 01:02:13.000 --> 01:02:32.000 We have here before and after picture of a section of my main archive floor, you can see the mess of before, and the things piled on the floor, even on the cart on the shelving and then the after, which is so much better, and for me, I had to Macgyver a storage situation for all 01:02:32.000 --> 01:02:35.000 the empty library carts that we were coming up with. 01:02:35.000 --> 01:02:41.000 Next slide, please. I appreciate everyone for joining us today. 01:02:41.000 --> 01:02:53.000 I hope that you've enjoyed our presentations, and that you've learned something, and will now turn to our helpers, and answering some questions. 01:02:53.000 --> 01:02:59.000 Thank you all for your presentation. We appreciate it so much. 01:02:59.000 --> 01:03:00.000 So we're gonna start with the that's in the chat. 01:03:00.000 --> 01:03:10.000 If you have a question, go ahead and put it in there, or you can raise your hand, and we will call on you after we do that. 01:03:10.000 --> 01:03:16.000 But right now looks like we have 5 questions. Our first is for Tara, but right now looks like we have 5 questions. 01:03:16.000 --> 01:03:18.000 Our first is for Tara. What system is the digital archive in? 01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:30.000 So we are using a D space, the space platform so very old school but we're hosted by admire, which is a company that hosts this particular platform. 01:03:30.000 --> 01:03:38.000 I unfortunately don't know a lot of the details of like our how we got at Meyer, how we got to be space, because it was this in a existence. 01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:50.000 When I started. I can certainly get you the information of the Hi Librarian, actually, who helped make the decision to go that direction, need to do that. 01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:54.000 So I'm gonna actually insert everybody's contact information in the chat. 01:03:54.000 --> 01:03:59.000 Feel free to send me an email, and I will get you in contact with my colleague. 01:03:59.000 --> 01:04:04.000 Who can tell you so much more? 01:04:04.000 --> 01:04:08.000 Thank you. Tara. Our next question is for Scott. 01:04:08.000 --> 01:04:21.000 Can Scott talk about the kinds of research requests they get and excuse me, and if they see their improvements on digital preservation steps helping them serve up e-records. 01:04:21.000 --> 01:04:26.000 So our researchers, you know, in a lot of ways. 01:04:26.000 --> 01:04:33.000 Religious archives are a strange mix of public and of public, archive and private corporation. 01:04:33.000 --> 01:04:48.000 So we get a lot of internal requests, counsel, communications, the museum certainly does a a number of questions, but we also get academic and genealogy requests the most common question we get is my aunt sash gradient. 01:04:48.000 --> 01:04:53.000 Was a sister. Do you have any pictures of her in terms of E request? 01:04:53.000 --> 01:04:59.000 I will say that the more recently produced E. Records are not the most requested materials. 01:04:59.000 --> 01:05:03.000 Yet. We've had a few, you know. Sisters ask about. 01:05:03.000 --> 01:05:07.000 Do you have this past issue of the Sister News Letter? That's all. Digital. 01:05:07.000 --> 01:05:16.000 And we'll say yes. The big outside requests that we've been able to use the more modern E records are actually related to what the sisters did during Covid. 01:05:16.000 --> 01:05:28.000 And so those are usually, you know, they're born digital news clippings or things like Ps, that otherwise we're not in our categalog yet. 01:05:28.000 --> 01:05:33.000 And so, having a place to go for those that's really the big topic that's been most helpful. 01:05:33.000 --> 01:05:46.000 So, even if they're not the, even if the more recent materials are not the most research request right now, at some point they will be. 01:05:46.000 --> 01:05:47.000 Thank you. Scott. Looks like our next 2 questions are for Amy. 01:05:47.000 --> 01:05:56.000 The first is what software supports. The virtual tour on the Women's Memorial website. 01:05:56.000 --> 01:05:59.000 It is excellent. 01:05:59.000 --> 01:06:06.000 I will have to research the answer to that question for you, because I wasn't responsible for creating that video. 01:06:06.000 --> 01:06:15.000 But if you send me your contact info, or reach out directly, I'll make sure I get an answer from our marketing team. 01:06:15.000 --> 01:06:26.000 Great. And then the next question for Amy, how did you connect with the other institutions in organizations that donated supplies and volunteer labor? 01:06:26.000 --> 01:06:27.000 I attribute a lot of that to Eric. 01:06:27.000 --> 01:06:38.000 To be honest, just being on the the list for the Virginia caucus for the Maryland and DC. Caucus. 01:06:38.000 --> 01:06:41.000 Since we sit in Northern Virginia, but right on the edge of DC. 01:06:41.000 --> 01:07:00.000 I get all of those. So I had a chance to tour the new archive storage space at Hillwood Museum, and they were talking about their old facility, and I saw the shelving there, and so I just asked the question, what's the and just position plan for those shelves. 01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:05.000 And it turned out they weren't needed, which was a tremendous help to us. 01:07:05.000 --> 01:07:08.000 We never could have afforded to purchase those shelves likewise. 01:07:08.000 --> 01:07:13.000 Nancy from Aia put a call out, saying, I have lots of ourival storage boxes available. 01:07:13.000 --> 01:07:20.000 We're closing our offices for 2 years of renovations. 01:07:20.000 --> 01:07:24.000 If you'd like to come, pick them up, let me know. 01:07:24.000 --> 01:07:35.000 And so we spent a couple of days going over there acquiring the boxes, and they were generous enough to donate to small exhibit cases to us as well. 01:07:35.000 --> 01:07:51.000 So just kind of keeping eyes and ears open for opportunities just to connect with other institutions, because we always have something to learn from each other, and oftentimes we we can support each other in ways that are unexpected with team rubicon. 01:07:51.000 --> 01:07:53.000 They have supported previous efforts at the military Women's Memorial. 01:07:53.000 --> 01:08:14.000 Some of our event. Planning requires a lot of setup like for honor flights and things like that, and then we did have a closure for renovation of the back office space of the Memorial couple of years ago, and they were instrumental in moving all of our furniture and 01:08:14.000 --> 01:08:34.000 things out at that time, so I just reconnected with them and asked if they would be able to support this project because we didn't really have the staff to insult the new shelves, especially with that kind of construction background to ensure they were properly secured to the walls. 01:08:34.000 --> 01:08:40.000 Thank you, Amy. Our next question is for Melissa. 01:08:40.000 --> 01:08:50.000 Did you ever experience resistance from your admin team or your boss when wanting to include volunteers and events, or doing volunteer recognition? 01:08:50.000 --> 01:09:02.000 Absolutely not. They've been apps. They have been thrilled with what we've been able to accomplish here I think they're kind of relieved because I don't spend a lot of time, Jones, in for part time help. 01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:18.000 If I have great volunteers, so maybe it takes a budget pressure off of them a little, but they have completely supported me and having volunteers, join us at functions and having volunteers, join us at functions and having them come to us at functions and having them, come to education, opportunities programming in 01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:22.000 fact we're planning a staff day later this spring, and I have been given permission to include my volunteers if they wish to join us. 01:09:22.000 --> 01:09:31.000 So it's really been a lot of support from the organization. I know that maybe not. 01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:43.000 Everyone would have that. Obviously, I'm not working with classified material here, or things that that would would be problematic for having volunteers I know that some organizations just disallowed volunteers, and I feel sorry for them. 01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:49.000 But I've been very lucky. 01:09:49.000 --> 01:10:08.000 Great. This next question is for all of our panelists, and that is, how do you balance theory versus practice versus local practice? 01:10:08.000 --> 01:10:10.000 Okay. 01:10:10.000 --> 01:10:15.000 The. 01:10:15.000 --> 01:10:18.000 This is a line that I've said a couple of times in this group. 01:10:18.000 --> 01:10:24.000 Meeting around is that in theory, theory, theory, and practice of the same thing in practice they. 01:10:24.000 --> 01:10:36.000 And so the fact is that theory is always going to break down in practice and. 01:10:36.000 --> 01:10:47.000 You. You need to figure out, you know. That's that's the science part of archival science is figuring out how the best way to make sure that the theory can actually apply to you. 01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:54.000 Or that fits your local condition. We try and take the theories at least here, and make them useful. 01:10:54.000 --> 01:11:05.000 And sometimes we need to plan our own path. 01:11:05.000 --> 01:11:06.000 Sorry. 01:11:06.000 --> 01:11:07.000 Oh, and sorry. Just one quick thing like I, that's okay. 01:11:07.000 --> 01:11:16.000 I was chatting like somebody made a comment while after I was done presenting, and you know, for me it's one of those things like in the end. 01:11:16.000 --> 01:11:26.000 As long as you materials are being made accessible. I sleep well at night, I mean because they weren't before people couldn't access them. 01:11:26.000 --> 01:11:30.000 They didn't know what we had. They were in those awful boxes. 01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:39.000 So, while it may not be the best, our goal point, it's good enough for now, and people are using them, and I'm getting more resources. 01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:43.000 That's correct. So I'm doing my job is, I think, how I look at it. 01:11:43.000 --> 01:11:47.000 And, Anne, please cut. You walk twice. 01:11:47.000 --> 01:11:58.000 No, it's fine, definitely progress at perfection in my, if you are like me, kind of a subset of something, and you're not an archive. 01:11:58.000 --> 01:12:10.000 Explaining the like 0 to the 4 explaining, and if, thens, if this is the limitation, then this is going to be the effect. 01:12:10.000 --> 01:12:34.000 The archive on the and really just making sure that your institution knows if we are not going to meet this perfect thing, then this is going to be the this is going to be the reality of how the archive is and just making that very clear of basically consequences. 01:12:34.000 --> 01:12:40.000 And just having that all out. If that makes any sense of yeah. 01:12:40.000 --> 01:12:49.000 I think also, we have to stop apologizing. Really, we are who we are, and we have what we have to work with. 01:12:49.000 --> 01:12:53.000 And we have to figure out the best way. It's good to know best practices. 01:12:53.000 --> 01:13:03.000 But don't lose sleep over them, because I would say the majority of our archivists are not able to do best practices from lack of time and money and personnel. 01:13:03.000 --> 01:13:11.000 And so it's nice to know that for those of us who've been doing more product, less processing for a long time, there's actually a name for that. 01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:16.000 And so don't apologize. Feel good about what you're accomplishing. 01:13:16.000 --> 01:13:28.000 Always take pictures before you embark on a big project, so you can look back at what a mess it was, and how much you've accomplished, and dwell on the good rather than the undone. 01:13:28.000 --> 01:13:34.000 So you don't make yourself nuts and burnout. 01:13:34.000 --> 01:13:51.000 Yeah, just to echo that always, always document your progress, even if it's not the progress you want because it's great to go later and also make that argument, that look how far we've come and we could also do this if you'll give us more money and 01:13:51.000 --> 01:13:54.000 funding and steps and Exceptions. 01:13:54.000 --> 01:14:07.000 Hey? Great! Thank you all, Scott! Where can I learn more about the scale you were using to judge the state of the archive from 2020 to 2023? 01:14:07.000 --> 01:14:11.000 Ndsa preservation levels no idea what that stands for. 01:14:11.000 --> 01:14:15.000 National digital stewardship aligns that sound right. 01:14:15.000 --> 01:14:19.000 Yeah, I think so. 01:14:19.000 --> 01:14:20.000 Okay. Another one for Scott. How did you collaborate with creators of digital objects? 01:14:20.000 --> 01:14:28.000 Slash assets to get them donated or transferred to the archive. 01:14:28.000 --> 01:14:29.000 Did you need to get mandate or support for digital Archive with your leadership for? 01:14:29.000 --> 01:14:39.000 And then approach creators, including departments heads. That's kind of a long one. 01:14:39.000 --> 01:14:48.000 You know? Yeah, so there's I was saying, there's plus and minuses to having a rotating leadership and plus and minuses having a leadership. 01:14:48.000 --> 01:14:54.000 It doesn't quite know what you do. It's the pluses are. 01:14:54.000 --> 01:14:58.000 You can kind of as long as you don't spend exorbitant amounts of money. 01:14:58.000 --> 01:15:05.000 Get some room to innovate and work with in your field, and the minuses. 01:15:05.000 --> 01:15:20.000 Are you constantly have to explain what you do? It's very beneficial that we've had predecessors who took the first steps of explaining to generations of counsel and board members that digital documentuments are documents. 01:15:20.000 --> 01:15:26.000 Even if they didn't take the next steps of really setting up a preservation plan for them. 01:15:26.000 --> 01:15:38.000 So thankfully the groundwork for transferring documents at the end of board terms and council terms which are either 3 or 6 years, was already very much in place. 01:15:38.000 --> 01:15:44.000 Other departments, you know, communications constantly has events, and constantly has sets of photos. 01:15:44.000 --> 01:15:49.000 They're easy to work with, and say, you know, drop us, add us to the list of thing. 01:15:49.000 --> 01:15:57.000 When this gets shared around, make sure that archives is on here, and we have a set place in a set person that that goes to other departments. 01:15:57.000 --> 01:16:03.000 We still have more difficulty talking with, and we're working on it. 01:16:03.000 --> 01:16:04.000 And I wanna apologize to Caitlin. 01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:16.000 Legacy, rolston accidentally skipped over you see, your question is for the whole group, and Caitlin says, I find the topics you all discussed today are faced by many institutions, but it can be challenging to find others to reach out to discuss these issues. 01:16:16.000 --> 01:16:34.000 Is there a professional, social media, or another form of group besides Merack that you all would recommend staying contact and problem solve with other Macgyver-ing institutions? 01:16:34.000 --> 01:16:37.000 And I see a hand raised. Scott! 01:16:37.000 --> 01:16:41.000 I'll do a hand of, put in a plug for small Museum association. 01:16:41.000 --> 01:16:51.000 Sma, yes, sometimes they're a little bit more in the curatorial museum field, but they're small institutions who are making the most out of their budgets, just like so many members of Marac. 01:16:51.000 --> 01:16:54.000 The. They're the ones Macgyvering, the most. 01:16:54.000 --> 01:16:59.000 They're not massive, giant, well-funded institutions. 01:16:59.000 --> 01:17:07.000 Alright! This is for Scott at all. What is the structure of adding current documents coming into your archive? 01:17:07.000 --> 01:17:19.000 I work in an independent school where individuals decide what to keep in, where and this is specific to electrically born documents and photos. 01:17:19.000 --> 01:17:25.000 I'm scrolling up to read that again just for a moment. Here! 01:17:25.000 --> 01:17:26.000 I see it, I see it! 01:17:26.000 --> 01:17:34.000 Yeah, that one's in the chat, Joanna or Joanna. Sorry. 01:17:34.000 --> 01:17:39.000 We're trying to, you know, get better than our predecessors on doing things like making accession records, even forborn digital documents. 01:17:39.000 --> 01:17:48.000 You know we don't log every single even if we're not logging every single file. 01:17:48.000 --> 01:17:53.000 You know, if it's you know, treasurer's documents 2018 to 2021. 01:17:53.000 --> 01:18:00.000 If we can have a record of that that says, you know, this folder of digital stuff came in, and it's 30 excel files, something like that. 01:18:00.000 --> 01:18:11.000 Those informal positions we tend to try and brief, early and brief, often to make Tain records and turn them over. 01:18:11.000 --> 01:18:25.000 At the end of their term or time in office, or you know the the clean out the desk times, unless it's a yearly routine thing to clean out the desk times, or when we can really hit people up. 01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:29.000 I'm not saying that's a perfect system, but at least in our organization. 01:18:29.000 --> 01:18:36.000 That's seems to work the best. 01:18:36.000 --> 01:18:39.000 I think also to make sure that you're still creating the same kind of records that you would for hard copy things. 01:18:39.000 --> 01:18:52.000 One of the frustrations I have when I got here is that things that came in as born digital items didn't have collection guides. 01:18:52.000 --> 01:19:03.000 And so that was something that we had to go back and create, so that those collections were usable if I didn't know what was in them I couldn't recommend them to a researcher. 01:19:03.000 --> 01:19:22.000 So I think that as you get those born digital items, make sure you're creating the same finding Aids that you would for the hard copy so that they don't get stuck on a server and forgotten. 01:19:22.000 --> 01:19:26.000 I think, takes us to time. Thank you all so much for your presentations. 01:19:26.000 --> 01:19:38.000 Your engagement, your questions. There have been several direct questions about recording slide availability, etc., and that will be happening through the Mirac repository. 01:19:38.000 --> 01:19:44.000 The drum, and more information will be coming out after the conference. 01:19:44.000 --> 01:19:56.000 Is over. So thank you so much, and enjoy the rest of your sessions.